mimi the cockeyed optimist
My ‘faithful reader’ PT wrote the following comment to the previous post. I should say that I have absolutely no idea who PT is; I know nothing more about her than she (assuming PT’s gender is as represented) has revealed in her many comments since her first one on June 5, 2007. And No, I’m not going to turn into an Ann Landers of middle-aged Manhattan dating. But my response was too long for a comment.
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Mimi, you seem convinced you will find a great guy. You recently said you wanted to marry, though in the past you said you didn’t, though clearly you want a great guy to be permanent in your life.
As do I.
But I don’t have much hope. And you do. How come? After your failed marriages and your lack of success with online dating, you remain convinced that you will have a successful relationship with a great guy. I remain convinced that I won’t. Where is he and how will I meet him? I simply can’t imagine.
I know it is a blog response cliche to say “Hang in there, keep the faith and he will come along at some point.” I don’t actually believe that is true. I read plenty of obits of women who never married or never remarried. The best I can muster is “You are not alone.”
Not to be a downer, but why are you so optimistic? Do you allow for the fact that you might have a series of first-dates and short-lived relationships, but never find a great guy of the caliber that you want, who is right for you over the long haul ?
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PT,
The short answer, à la Nellie Forbush: “I’m stuck like a dope with a thing called hope.’
And look what happened to Nellie F.: she got Emile de Becque.
But the South Pacific is too far from my zipcode, 100xx. Will not relocate to remote tropical island.
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The long answer (requires itemized responses):
1) there are probably, somewhere, statistics about how many twice-divorced 61-year-old urban professional women get married a third time; and the statistics are probably inconsistent and unreliable. So I’ll answer your question suspecting that there are statistics out there (perhaps several contradictory sets of them) but entirely ignorant of what they might be.
2) for a non-statistical look at the situation, you can read the VOWS column of the New York Times and see how many twice-divorced middle-aged women find love again, in many cases on the internet (and quite apart from divorced people or middle-aged people, the VOWS column has been featuring a lot of couples who met on the internet. But that’s an entirely different set of statistics).
3) okay, so, given the no doubt tiny number of women in my precise demographic who get married a third time, why would I be one of them? Let’s rephrase your question that way.
Well, someone’s got to be those women, and I’m a likely possibility, because
a) I’m actively looking; my profile will (not yet, but in a month or so) be up on two internet dating sites, and I’ll be pestering a few friends to think hard and see if they can introduce me to someone (not likely; hasn’t happened yet; but I’m working on it);
b) for my age, I look good;
c) at my best, I have qualities that middle-aged men (perhaps all dating heterosexual men) like – I’m funny, confident, cheerful, independent, professionally active and reasonably successful, etc. etc. Although I’m uneasy about sounding so obnoxiously pleased with myself, in order to explain my answer to your question I have to list the qualities that might tend to make me lucky in this buyers’ market. As my shrink put it to me recently, ‘You’ve got the goods.’
d) the very fact that I’ve been married twice shows that
i) men propose to me; at various points in my life I’ve ‘sent the right signals’ or whatever that have led to marriage; and
ii) I’m emotionally available, I take emotional risks and – for want of a better phrase – put myself in the way of love and marriage.
4) of course, in spite of my answer to # 3, I could get hit & killed by a taxi tomorrow or pushed in front of an oncoming subway or caught in the crossfire of a Manhattan gun battle. So the longed-for conclusion to my current romantic life might never occur.
5) I don’t accept your phrase about my ‘lack of success with online dating.’ First of all, the story isn’t over yet. And second, although of course none of the significant relationships I’ve had has been permanent, at least a third of the 33 men I dated, and perhaps more, were appropriate matches for me, the kinds of people friends might have introduced me to, had they known them. (One of my earliest dates said to me, ‘We know so many people in common, it’s surprising they never introduced us.’) Through these men, especially the ones I got to know well — Rolly, Performer, Plan C — I’ve gotten to know a lot about myself and the way I relate to men, the kinds of expectations I have, etc. I know, psychobabble, but true: online dating has given me the practice I need.
And oh yes — I’ve had a lot of fun!
6) I’m not only ever-hopeful by nature; I’m also dogged, very dogged. I’ve done things professionally that I myself thought statistically unlikely. That’s not to say I’m a wonder-woman – far, far from it – but I have doggedly, determinedly, refused to give up on things I wanted. And I’ve changed myself and adapted in whatever ways have seemed necessary to get what I wanted.
So that’s the answer to your question. Whether my hopes will be fulfilled of course remains to be seen.
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I wanted to find the Mary Martin version of “Cockeyed Optimist” on youtube, but I couldn’t. Stephanie Block’s is good, but not exactly what I was hoping for; her voice isn’t as high and uplifting as MM’s. And you have to wait through a bit of dialogue before you get to the song; if you put the little marker in the middle of the horizontal space, you’ll reach the place where the song begins. I like Kelly Lester’s singing better, but the acting is a bit cloying. Minimize the screen so you just hear her.
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And no, I’m not going to get cockeyed-optimist ringtones.
photo credit: musicals101.com
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August 11, 2008 at 5:55 pm
I read your blog precisely BECAUSE you are an optimist. And funny. And self-deprecating. And intelligent. And outlandishly optimistic. Why not believe that the best will come to you? And you do have “the goods.” So there. Stay cockeyed, Mimi.
August 11, 2008 at 6:04 pm
thank you, DT! kind words indeed. – mimi
August 11, 2008 at 7:55 pm
Mimi, your short answer got me: “The short answer, à la Nellie Forbush: “I’m stuck like a dope with a thing called hope.’”.
I find that very interesting because I tend to say this often too to characterize myself. sometimes as a good thing, sometimes as a bad thing, but always as a fact, I have this incredibly resilient hope, that just won’t die… and you know what, we will just achieve what we set our minds on, because she just won’t stop until we get it right? (at least that’s what I tell myself). I of course feel times of doubt and sometimes talk about giving up, but the strangest thing is that I don’t… I talk only to give myself more courage and remind myself of the decision I made in the first place.
anyway, enough about me – I just meant to say, I can relate, and I can only add to your statistics that if there is only one, it will be you.
August 11, 2008 at 8:03 pm
hi fts, thanks so much for writing. you made me remember why i — we? — have this hope: because the alternative is impossible to live with, and because confidence in what we want to happen becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. (That sentence was hard to phrase, but i trust it’s comprehensible!)
August 12, 2008 at 3:42 am
Mimi,
Cock-eyed or not, your optimism is what keeps me going too! I get so discouraged with dating at times, wondering if I’ll ever find a man who fits me, and questioning why I even want a man at all. It always really helps to come here and read your writing. Your hope is contagious! To see your qualities listed here is so wonderful: it makes me believe that I just might have the goods too, since I so appreciate you and therefore may have a few of those qualities myself! Thank you for being here. You feel like a good friend.
August 12, 2008 at 4:15 am
Golly Gee.
i’m beginning not to recognize myself in these comments.
a lot of what drives me is grit, determination, what i called ‘doggedness’ above. i’m certainly not ‘optimistic’ about the macropolitical world — who could be? – but i absolutely refuse to give up on my own romantic life. each ‘failed relationship’ soon becomes reinterpreted as ‘good practice’ for a better one, and each break-up (e.g. those of 16 December and 3 august) yields good literary material!
so i’m certainly glad, juliette, if all my mistakes are actually useful to someone, as i (in the words of Dorothy Fields, sung memorably by Fred Astaire to the music of Jerome Kern) “pick myself up, dust myself off, Start all over again. “
August 12, 2008 at 4:20 am
okay, to hear fred & ginger do it, go to
August 13, 2008 at 6:08 pm
My mother, who divorced my father in 1993 at age 56, met my now-stepfather online three years ago. They married last spring, the bride 69, the groom a few years younger. It’s safe to say that they are the loves of each other’s lives.
My mother went on any number of dates during the 14 years between her divorce and her (re-)marriage: exhilarating ones, innocuous ones, abysmal ones. Some turned into long-term relationships; there was even one other engagement, subsequently broken off (by her).
In other words, it happens.
A side note: Is the end goal marriage? Not really; if it were, no one would ever get divorced. The end goal is finding happiness with another human being.
August 13, 2008 at 8:21 pm
congratulations to your mother! that’s wonderful that they’re so happy together. i hope i’m so lucky, and i also hope it doesn’t take me 14 years, though of course it could. maybe it’s good i don’t now know how long it will take.
perhaps i should meet your mother…does she live in new york?!
i’m also curious to know how much she let you in on her social life. now that my children have met two of my men, they know a certain amount, but i don’t confide in them date by date….. would love to hear more about your and your mother’s story.
and yes absolutely to your final paragraph.
August 13, 2008 at 8:37 pm
And despite your wonderful response and the responses of others, there’s one other thing that wasn’t mentioned: IT’S FUN TO LOOK. The process itself of seeking love is also very exhilarating and satisfying. I’ve been married 17 years and in all honesty, I envy those first kisses, those unsure moments when we seek reciprocal affection in someone else’s eyes and words. I know it can be a drag sometimes, and very painful when it doesn’t work out, but life is about seeking and trying to make connections with people. It’s the journey. So enjoy!
August 13, 2008 at 8:48 pm
so good to hear from you again, melissa. welcome back.
well………and i envy you 17 years of a stable marriage! i hope i have that many years of one ahead of me. i am having lots of fun, but ….you know…. i’d like to have fun with just one person… however, the continuing quest keeps the blog going; there’s that to be said for it!
August 15, 2008 at 3:47 am
Hear, hear, good post. I think the best asset any person can bring to any social scenario, dating or otherwise, is optimism. I read somewhere during a what-do-I-do-now? phase in my life about four years ago in a book: “In order to find a good partner, one has to be a good partner.” The rest of the book was really, really corny, but that one bit of info stuck. And I think helped improve my situation. Personally, and now, otherwise.
Cheers,
SA
August 15, 2008 at 4:09 am
Coming from another eternal optimist — hurrah!
And as Schmutti says, is marriage really the mark of success of a relationship? Not necessarily.
(will write more another time, when it’s not midnight, and when I’m actually half-awake!)
August 15, 2008 at 1:11 pm
that’s a very interesting quotation, sonny. well, i think i’m a good partner now…! and always improving…so we’ll see. LV, good to hear from you, & following yr situation via yr blog w. great interest.
August 26, 2008 at 2:32 am
KUDOS to you my friend! Very well said!