Sex and Plan C

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Phase 1: Bantery emails
mid-evening, 5 February, ‘Super Tuesday’

Plan C’s introductory emails are full of romantic compliments (‘I am looking at a pretty woman’, ‘Such a pic. Pretty for sure’) but not sexual. His stance is more like that of the courtly lover, elevating the woman, denigrating the man: I can’t believe I did that he wrote when I told him that I had initiated email contact with him back in August 2006 and he had told me he wasn’t interested. Thank you, then, if I did, and I must have, for being forbearing, understanding, and giving me this extra chance.

My responses are jokey but not sexy: ok so I wrote you, you said no; now you’ve written to me. So I say, okay, he writes very well; he’s literate and articulate; and he has seen the error of his ways and now wants to make my acquaintance…

Phase 2: The Kisses
first date, 5:27 - 10:25 pm Sunday 10 February

[taken from 11 February post My date with Plan C: before and after]

Greeting (5:27 pm)
I put out my hand to shake his, but he gives me a kind of loose embrace and some kind of little light friendly but insignificant kiss somewhere on my face. Maybe it was on the lips, but I can’t remember.

An exchange in the restaurant (about 9:30 pm)
PLAN C: I want to see you Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
MIMI: All those dates?! (long pause……) But you haven’t even touched me yet.
PLAN C: I kissed you when we met.
MIMI: That didn’t count.

Good-night (about 10:25 pm)
He kisses me good-night down the block a bit from my building’s awning, as I always request of my dates, so that we aren’t directly under the eyes of my doorman. I like all the doormen, but —

I think his plan was a quick light kiss on the lips. I let it evolve into something more interesting, and he appeared quite surprised and pleased (duh). My thought is, Well, if he’s planning his whole future around me, at the very least we ought to have a real kiss.

Phase 3: Discussion of The Kisses
email, Monday -Tuesday, 11 - 12 February

He sends me a poem about our first date. I write him, i notice you didn’t mention the good-night kiss[es].

And he writes back, I did not dare write of those good-night kisses and I surely fear, no, I know, I did them badly. You took me by surprise. I was eager. I was inept. I remain eager. I can be ept.

I write asking him about the ‘surprise,’ and he responds, The surprise was that they were available, so startling and wondrous, and then the very, very sweet, sweet promise of them. So, an admission. Thought about them all day long and I could spend eternity kissing you because the rest is the rest but kisses are, oh yes they are, sweeter than wine (oh those lyrics) and yours were like honey.

* * *
So you see the kind of person he is: amazingly romantic.

Other quotations from his messages in this period:
Kisses and hugs and soulful glances
and
you make my heart sing.

Phase 4: Plan C turns maidenly
Wednesday 13 through Friday 15 February, mid-day

In email messages, Plan C begins discussing where he will stay over the weekend when we have our two (or three; not yet decided at this point) dates. He may stay with his friend Maureen, but if she’s away, he’ll stay with his younger son Jeremy. More messages. Maureen is away. He’ll take a taxi Friday night late to Jeremy, who lives with his girl friend at the end of Manhattan diagonally opposite from me. He will ‘crash’ on Jeremy’s sofa.

* * *
This is beginning to sound complicated to me. I write Plan C that (like Maureen and Jeremy) I, too, have that exotic piece of furniture, a sofa.

* * *
He responds, I think I have a solution to my overnight problem. If not it will be a hotel. I think it is too soon to be visiting. I don’t want anything wrong to happen. I am so afraid of anything going wrong with us that I would not chance it. I want to court you and woo you and win you and do it as a gentleman and a gentle man to a most exciting, challenging and beautiful woman of independent mind. I took out all those women just looking for and expecting and hoping for maybe a nice, call it acceptable, compantion. I did not think anything like this would come around again.

* * *
‘Hotel’?

* * *

Plan C writes back, Dearest Mimi, I suppose that salutation sounds Victorian and 19th centuryish but it is how I feel and you know that already, and I know how you are feeling. And if we are both, and yes we are, then we have time to make it right and not be late 20th century about that part of life. Better all things in their time and the right time and moment. Better to savor, anticipate, and above all for me to show and give you my feelings and respect, and make that part of us coming together, and not part of that until and if it’s right. Embracing you, Plan C.

And I write back, ummmmmmmmmmmmm — you’re not talking years, are you?!?

* * *

And then, before I get a response, I write again, but i know what you mean: don’t get ahead of ourselves. hope my kidding didn’t bother you. probably it didn’t. anyway, i agree in principle Altogether with what you said [so long as you're not thinking, well, maybe 2009, 2010, etc!].

To which he responds, No your kidding didn’t bother me and I may be being chivalrous but I am with passion. Now enough of that. It is not to be talked of; it is to happen as and when and be a wondrous surprise.

* * *

At noon Friday, I tell RS (Rolly’s shrink, also mine) about this new relationship. All is fine and wonderful, I say, but I’m a little concerned that Plan C is not interested in sex, or not as interested as I am.

RS (age 70…) quotes Hamlet (talking to his mother) to the effect that older people don’t have much sex drive:

You cannot call it love, for at your age
The heyday in the blood is tame…

I demur, and after I’ve left his office I think of the right responses:
1) Hamlet was obviously wrong, because it seems clear from the play that Gertrude and Claudius do have a significant sex life;
2) Hamlet’s a young man: what does he know??
3) if anyone is an expert on the sex drive of middle-aged men, it’s I: I’ve dated 33 of them.

Phase 5: The Second Date
beginning 7:55 pm Friday 15 February

Plan C prefers not to meet me at the restaurant (a different one from our first-date restaurant) because he wants to ‘call for’ me at my building.

As soon as we are out the door and past the awning, he turns to face me, looks at me, and we begin to kiss. He initiates a series of long, deep kisses. After a little while I get embarrassed, because we’re still awfully near my building, and people I know may be going by on the street.

We smile and go to the restaurant.

At times, over dinner, we hold hands across the table. He mentions that he can stay at Maureen’s even though she isn’t there, and he has left his suitcase there.

* * *
Back home after dinner, not long after arriving in my apartment, we (surprise!) begin making out on the sofa. After a while, Plan C opines that maybe he won’t stay at Maureen’s. I say that’s fine.

Phase 6: Why Plan C was maidenly
very late evening Friday 15 February

I can’t remember how Plan C introduced this subject, but the conversation took place on the sofa in something like the following way:

Plan C suddenly tells me that until right before he left his house to go to New York this afternoon, he was terribly worried about something. A woman with whom he had a fling last November had asked him (during their affair) if he had been ‘tested,’ i.e. tested for AIDS.

Plan C said no.

The woman said he ought to be.

* * *

Although Plan C 1) had not slept with any men (he’s straight, entirely) and 2) had only had complete intercourse with two women since his wife died and 3) neither of them had AIDS or any STDs, and 4) he had no symptoms of illness, nevertheless he immediately became terrified that he might have AIDS.

Not long after that date, sick and tired of the whole dating process, especially internet dating, he took his profile down.

He didn’t put it back up till late January, and then only (he has told me several times) so he could write me (which he did on 5 February).

* * *
As the prospect of meeting me loomed, and then the prospect of meeting me a second time, and with it the prospect of sexual contact of some kind or another, Plan C got more terrified.

He convinced himself that he had AIDS, and that we could never have a relationship. He got more and more terrified. He would have to tell me this terrible news; we could never kiss; we could never have sex; and he would die.

* * *
Plan C made an appointment to be tested. On Thursday 14 February, Valentine’s Day, the day before our second date, he was tested. The doctor told him he would have the results the next day.

* * *

Friday morning he hadn’t heard.

Friday afternoon before leaving home he hadn’t heard.

He called his doctor’s office, and the doctor wasn’t there.

He called his doctor’s house (the doctor is also a friend), and his wife said he was out. Plan C told her he had to speak to her husband.

She heard the anxiety in his voice and called her husband, wherever he was.

* * *

The doctor called him back: Plan C (he said), you’re going to live. The test results were negative.

* * *

Plan C was reborn.

* * *

He went happily off to New York. Now he could kiss me freely.

* * *

After comforting Plan C, because his anxiety even in retelling the already-happily-ended story is so great, and soothing him, I say, So that’s why you were so maidenly!

Plan C is slightly, but only slightly, amused at the word ‘maidenly.’ Even thinking about the scare, ended only eight or nine hours before this conversation, brings back all his fear. But he’s happy now, and I am too.

* * *
And it turns out there’s a second reason, almost as important: he also didn’t want me to feel that he was ‘like all the other men,’ namely, just anxious to get in my pants. He wanted this to be different; he didn’t want anything sexual between us until it was clear that he loved me and was planning to love me forever. He was so afraid of making even one wrong move that he didn’t even consider, say, holding my hand across the table on that first date. He took all his cues from me, he said, letting me (unconscious that my apparent choices were determining the way our sexual connection developed) make all the moves, or rather, letting me be the one to move things forward.

* * *

And it’s also the case that he wanted to differentiate me from ‘all the other women’ he had dated since his wife died.

* * *
He had said I love you in the restaurant (second date), only minutes, I think, after we were seated. That’s the soonest in a relationship any man has ever, ever said that to me. I didn’t return the phrase till sometime the next day, I think. I had planned to take a little longer, but by then it was clear that I did love him, and he was very emotional when he said, that if this relationship didn’t work, if something happened, he would be ––

I have no memory at all of the words he used. I just remember that it became instantly clear to me how intense his emotions were, how vulnerable he felt, and how distraught he would be if I didn’t return his feelings.

And this a man who sometimes negotiates with Donald Trump!

He’s – well, I don’t know how to describe him.

(But I’ll say this: he’s not a real estate man. Just so you know.)

Phase 7: in bed together at last
about midnight Friday 15 February

PLAN C: I really like sex.

MIMI: You do?? Thank God. You had me worried.

Phase 8: Taxes
8 o’clock Sunday morning 17 February

Plan C and I have just gotten up, brushed our teeth, and returned to bed (naked).

The following conversation occurs just as we get under the covers.

PLAN C: I give $1,000.00 every year to [his college] and $500.00 every year to [his late wife’s college]. I also give $500.00 to –

MIMI: You’re telling me your charitable deductions???

PLAN C: I want you to know what kind of person I am. I want you to know my values.

MIMI: This is your idea of foreplay?

PLAN C: [makes a face at me]

MIMI: Maybe when we get even more intimate I’ll tell you my professional deductions.

PLAN C: [starts laughing uncontrollably]

* * *

Later that day, Plan C and I are walking between Madison and Fifth with our arms around each other.

I turn to him and whisper seductively, ‘You know what I’m going to do to you in the bedroom when we get home?’

PLAN C: [with interest]: What?

MIMI [still in seductive voice]: I’m going to let you look at my Form 1040.

PLAN C: [collapses on sidewalk laughing]

* * *

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23 Comments on “Sex and Plan C”

  1. Tybalt Says:

    Oh, how I laughed at the 1040 comment. I hope the folks in the neighbouring offices didn’t notice too much.

    I am so happy you have found love again. Best of luck!

  2. sexagenarian07 Says:

    And it really happened that way!

    thanks, T.

  3. charlene Says:

    Congratulations.

    But you have succeeded in thoroughly confusing me. Even shocking me.

    I am no dating expert, merely curious. But everything I’ve read and heard says that (no matter what your age) you should not sleep with a man five days after you’ve met him…not if you consider him relationship material and not a fling.

    I’d be curious to hear from the experts on this. Or is there somewhere else where this discussion has taken place already?

  4. Melissa Says:

    It’s right about here that I said F!@K out loud at my office: “A woman with whom he had a fling last November had asked him (during their affair) if he had been ‘tested,’ i.e. tested for AIDS.”

    Right here is where I exhaled: “The test results were negative.”

    And here is where I laughed: “I’m going to let you look at my Form 1040.”

    What a roller coaster!

  5. sexagenarian07 Says:

    http://sexagenarian07.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/a-critique-of-rachel-greenwalds-find-a-husband-after-35-part-1/

    http://sexagenarian07.wordpress.com/2007/09/15/performer-meets-rachel-greenwald-author-of-how-to-find-a-husband-after-35/

    charlene, i discuss that issue in the two posts above, 12 august and 15 september 2007. you can find it discussed all over the web, with absolutely no consistency of opinion. i never had a ‘policy’ on that issue. in fact until we were actually in bed together, neither plan c nor i had any definite idea of whether we would be or not, that night. [we have discussed this matter since, in loving detail!] if you’re looking for ‘expert opinion,’ forget it!

  6. sexagenarian07 Says:

    melissa, to tell the truth, i never showed him my form 1040!! that’s for when i know him better. when we got home after that walk, we just sat on the sofa and talked and talked and talked (he had a bit of Jameson) until he had to leave to catch his train. a lovely afternoon….

  7. junohenry Says:

    See, Mimi, I knew we were soulmates.

    Sleep with a guy after 3or 4 dates (hey, i’ve done sooner than that, i freely confess) — sure. But a form 1040? After 4 dates?

    Sheesh. You slattern. ;-)

    I was going to post a comment that said I’m only 39, and i couldn’t find my mom this evening, so i’m reading unchaperoned, but i won’t sue if i suffer any post-traumatic ill-effects… call it a disclaimer.

    If it helps at all, I’m almost as neurotic as Plan C when it comes to HIV and STD testing.

    I’m so happy that you’re so happy. Truly I am. Enjoy it, and may it last forever. One word of warning. Do not, no matter how much he begs, ever show him this blog. Don’t say i didn’t warn you.

  8. sexagenarian07 Says:

    now juno THAT’S a serious question.
    why not?
    i was beginning to feel that i should tell him about it fairly soon, maybe w/in the next 4 weeks at latest. otherwise it’s a major *secret* from him, and i don’t feel comfortable with that.

    tell me — why not?

    sooner or later i will have to….and it seems to me, the more i write about him, the bigger the ’secret’ from him. i don’t like that.

    AND — i don’t think i’ve written anything that he would be upset to see; nothing that makes him recognizable to anyone who might know him, and nothing that in anyway casts doubt on my feelings for him, which are beyond doubt.

    so do tell…..

  9. Dating Trooper Says:

    Hi Mimi - Wow, I have to say I’m a bit stunned at how fast this is all moving. I’m excited for you but hope you will take more time to get to know him before you lose yourself entirely in love. Don’t mean to be the grinch to spoil the feeling at all, I just think sometimes it’s easy to think you really “know” someone when you’re soaring on love and lust, and I’d hate to see you get hurt again by something that got missed. That being said, I hope I’m just overly cautious, pessimistic and dead wrong and that every instinct you have is correct and you and live happily ever after.

    OK, as for telling him about the blog. I told WG about mine once we had the “exclusive” talk (about 2 months in I think) and I was scared shitless he would freak out. He didn’t because (as I’ve said before when asked this question by other bloggers) I made sure he understood the blog was about ME not about HIM. I also made it clear how important and therapeutic writing has become to me - what guy who loves you would want to take that away from you? Sounds like you and Plan C have moved way past the “exclusive” talk already (the word ‘love’ sealed the deal in my opinion) so I think you have to tell him and soon. And yes, there is some risk but you seem a lot like me - incapable of living in a lie. So you really have no choice. Again, in my opinion.

    Sorry for doling out the harsh truth but, hey, you asked for it!
    Love, DT

  10. pt Says:

    LUCKY YOU!
    I cannot wait to see how this unfolds.

  11. sexagenarian07 Says:

    dt, thanks so much.

    i don’t see any ‘harsh truth’ in what you said. i don’t mind telling him at all. but i’ll take yr advice and emphasize a) that it’s about me and b) that it is ‘important and therapeutic.’

    knowing plan c — as i am beginning to — he will read it first w. some initial jealousy of performer and then w. anger at p for the way he treated me — he’ll release some angry words at p — plan c is entirely non-violent but very impulsive in the way he speaks. his chivalry is militant — i think that’s one way of putting it. i’ve already told him about the scene in the providence airport that was the end of my marriage, and he was v. upset about how that was done.

    as for your being ‘overly cautious,’ well, everyone is telling us — especially him! — that same thing. one of his sons said he didn’t want to meet me till we had been together for a month, and plan c said, ‘well, counting from the first date, that’s 3 weeks from now.’

    the other one said to him, ‘you’re not a teenager,’ to which plan c responded, ‘wanna bet?’

    he has been sending my profile photo to all his relatives. his sister wrote back, ‘I am very happy for you. Just try and take it easy.’

    he gets impatient w. all those responses, so i tell him that i would probably say the same kind of thing myself to someone else under the circs. he was never this way before except 40 years ago when he met the woman who was to be his wife till she died in 2005…..he is impulsive, impatient, full of passion etc etc. plays songs into every telephone i have access to. i need to learn how to delete them from several phones in places where i visited!!!

    but i digress.

    thank you, dt, for yr thoughts. i see no harsh truth here at all. perhaps i’ll tell him this weekend?? sun the 24th?? maybe…

    thanks again.
    mimi - and more advice et al. always welcome. AND P.S. you used the phrase ‘love and lust.’ i understand why. but truly, it just feels like ‘love,’ and all the rest goes with it. sorry to lose my irony. it will return, i promise.

  12. Engelschauen Says:

    I say, live in the moment. Not my usual style, but I think that you’re a strong woman. When you’re capable of bouncing back from a terrible disappointment (although I bet it doesn’t feel like that anymore), take advantage of that strength — you can afford to revel in the present.

    Plan C sounds like a darling and a really unusual man. I was getting a little concerned about the intensity, but was immensely relieved when the 1040 comment cracked him up.

    Intimate about money so soon! That’s the real shocker; I think most people would rather demonstrate their favorite sexual positions than reveal their salaries.

    I’m with the rest of the Mimi Fan Club, cheering you on.

  13. sexagenarian07 Says:

    when i told him i could understand why his sister wrote as she did, he wrote me,

    “I just wish people would trust me. I mean I ain’t a kid, I know myself, I know how fruitless was the search and I know the difference. Oh boy I know the difference. I knew it 40 years ago. I know it now. Oh well, they’ll believe us when they do. But I do and you do and that’s all that really counts.”

  14. sexagenarian07 Says:

    [all these comments are getting in the wrong order, but i trust w. names mentioned etc. the conversation will make some sense]

    PT,
    you mean i have your blessing?!? but this guy is just another ‘internet date’ — are you _sure_ you approve of him?!

    but then, you read all he said above about wanting to ‘woo me like a gentleman’ or whatever it was. he’s the most earnest man i’ve ever met.

  15. sexagenarian07 Says:

    engelschauen,

    he is ‘a darling’ and he is ‘unusual.’ and he’s intense, but i make him laugh, and then he remembers to make me laugh.

    and to clarify: i did NOT show him my form 1040. even if i could have put my hands on it easily, and i probably could not have, i would not have shown it to him. nor do i want to see his. it’s just not relevant at the moment.

    his late wife must have played the same role i find myself in every now and then, and that his sister seems to be playing also, namely, soothing him and calming him down. he’s charmingly and amazingly emotional. in fact, i’d better stop writing comments and send him a message or he’ll worry something happened to me betw work and home….that’s what he’s like.

    and thanks, E.

  16. a&v Says:

    *fans self*

    Oh, it’s good to laugh, isn’t it? I’m glad you and C have so much fun together!

  17. sexagenarian07 Says:

    yes, indeed we do. when he’s not crying with joy (and last weekend he spent a lot of time doing that….) i can make him laugh.

    and i haven’t even begun to talk about our dancing….

  18. Young at Heart in San Diego Says:

    Mimi, just wondering if YOU have ever been tested for STDs. In California It’s on of those courtship benchmarks which happen near the “exclusive” talk. Most couples go together: my man and I made it into the best date we’d had yet. And then we celebrated our results the next week with champagne and sex. It occurred to me that he might have been curious about you as well or maybe had heardn about that ritual…
    I LOVE the new “sassy” Mimi. This guy really brings out a fun side of you!

  19. sexagenarian07 Says:

    happy to say that i’m entirely clean.
    and yes, each of us brings out a wacky side of the other: he thinks i’m ‘zany’ [can't imagine why] and i think he’s a nutcase. we’re well-matched.

  20. Loverville Says:

    Mazel tov! I still think you should *try* to take it slowly and take your time getting to know him… at the same time — live in the moment. As we all know… how often does that feeling come along?

  21. sexagenarian07 Says:

    lv, it’s so funny: all these people half our ages (like you! like plan c’s sons!) are telling us to ‘take it easy’ etc etc. plan c is going around telling the whole world he’s in love….asking his business associates if he ‘looks different’ etc…..

    meanwhile, i’m thinking of you & CJ; going to ask his sons, who are ages 34 and 30 and live in the ny area, if they have single friends……will let you know.

  22. cobalt_00 Says:

    The 1040 comment made me kind of glad that work has inexplicably decided to block your blog again, else someone surely would have asked what I was so amused about.
    I am glad that C is healthy and (ahem) vigorous. :) I hope things continue to go well for you both.

  23. sexagenarian07 Says:

    cobalt, i think you’re the third person who has mentioned to me that a work computer blocks this blog! i guess computers don’t know the pure and sexless meaning of ’sexagenarian.’ dumb machines! glad you can read it at home.

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